What makes a camgirl successful? Survey results

Option A: Having natural hair color
Option B: Being really hot
Option C: Doing lots of drugs
Option D: Doing a fuckton of games
Option E: All of the above

hint: the answer is E

My Data Has Limits, Beware!

I got 311 responses from people who identified as cam performers. I threw out all male cammers, people who hadn’t cammed in the last 6 months, people who had wildly inconsistent answers, and people who skipped a lot of questions.

This left me with a sample size of 278.

If there weren’t a lot of answers in a category, sometimes I grouped them together. For example, when asked to rate their own attractiveness, only a handful gave answers spread around the range of 1-5. I combined all of them to function as 5. So, for example, “15% of girls are 5 or under, 22% are 6, 18% are 7, etc.” I don’t know if this is the right way to handle data, so if I made an error here, let me know!

I tried to ensure all categories had at least 25 responses, but most have over 30.

All spectrum answers were out of 7 (e.g., on a scale from 1 (low) and 7 (high), rate your body weight)

I think the error margin for my answers is 5-7%, based off of some light googling, but the margin is probably much higher for correlations. Try to squint when you look at the graphs.

I used DataHero, a correlation finder for dummies complete idiots.

Also please remember my sample size is camgirls who are involved in networking! I used twitter and forums to spread the survey, so I missed camgirls who are disconnected from the community, and their numbers might be very different.

Onto the juice:

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When I asked about income, I asked for ranges, and plugged in the numbers as the bottom of that range. For example: an income of $1-10 I registered as ‘1.’ The number you see is the average sum of the bottom of all the ranges. The highest category is $200+/hr.

So, out of camgirls who struggle with anxiety/depression frequently, the bottom range of their earnings is $45/hr. Girls who don’t struggle make a bottom range of $62/hr. I don’t actually know if this is the right way to categorize the data, but at least the comparisons between categories seem legit for now.

The total average bottom-range number of all responses is $49 per hour.

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Remember that correlation does not equal causation! It might be that girls who make more money end up being financially secure which leads to less depression. It might also be that girls who are prone to depression have this affect their work life, thus leading to lower income. I don’t know which one it is. Maybe/probably both.

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I would guess that newer girls tend to be younger, and as thus have a less established base and less income. The income increases once the base is established, but drops off once get too ripe.

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This seems to hold somewhat true. The 27-32 and the 33+ year old categories each generally have been camming for the same amount of time, but those over 33 make substantially less. The 23-26 year olds have cammed for less time than the 27+ age group, but make more money.

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If you’ll notice I fucked up a bit when asking about length of camming. If you’ll also notice, there’s no difference in income between girls who have cammed 0-6 months and girls who’ve cammed 6-12 months. 2 years is where it really starts to take off. I don’t know about that dip in the 3rd year.

So far it looks like the secret to success is “start camming really young” and “cam for a long time.”

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(Due to low answers, I combined people who answered “1” or “2” into just “2”, and same for 6-7)

Looks like 3/7 bodyweight earns the most – with an interesting spike at the heavier end. Is this a sign of niche preference for fluffier ladies?

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This one is pretty obvious. Remember we don’t know which causes which – the income or the time put in!

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Turns out the ‘0-5′ and the ’40+’ categories have only around 20 responses each, so expect higher variance there.
That being said, all ways I looked at the data showed a spike around 10-20 hours a week, and 40+ hours a week. Is this indicative of two different types of successful camgirl strategies?

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I took out the ‘0-1’ category because there were few responses, but the average reported income for 0-1 days was very low. I say this because I don’t understand why 2 days a week is so high.

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That being said, the hours and days correlation is beautifully strong.

But it looks like there’s a bit of two sweet spots here – working 2 days a week, or 10-15 hours, and working 40+ hours a week, or 5 days a week.
There wasn’t enough data to look closely at the distinctions of hours ‘more’ than 40 a week, but I would guess it falls off at the upper ends, much like days of week falls off once you work over 5 days a week.

Remember: correlation does not equal causation. Working more than 5 days a week does not mean you will make less per hour – it’s very possible that 7-day girls are also ones who work from studios, or split-cam, or something, and thus bring down the income numbers. I don’t know.

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(I combined responses in 1-5 and 9-10 due to low counts)
And maybe the obvious thing we all want to ignore – hotter (at least self-reported hotter) girls make more money. A 6/10 girl will make, on average, a whopping $33 less per hour than a 9/10 girl.

Of course it’s possible girls who think they are hotter are more confident, and confidence is what earns more money. I personally doubt this, however.

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For this question, I asked girls to rank themselves in comparison to other camgirls (for income), and then compared it to the actual income ranking.

There might be something fucky going on with the way I organized the data, but from this it looks like girls who rated themselves “3” or “4” (out of 7) in comparison to other camgirls are overrating themselves. You 3 and 4 girls, you’re doing worse than you think!

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Blonde and Brunette competes for the goal, while ‘Other’ lags behind. (grey was an option, but there were so few responders that I filtered that out.) There’s a pretty significant difference in income, with ‘other’ hair colors earning $24 less per hour.

I thought that maybe less attractive people tend to dye their hair weird colors, so I looked at the correlation between hair color and self-rated attractiveness. There was no significant correlation (the biggest difference was 7.26 at black hair, and 7.52 at blonde hair, which I don’t think is a huge difference? ‘Other’ was 7.45, anyway).

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Here, “1” was “no sexualness” and “7” was “very explicit. I interpret this as “non-nude” models doing ok, and “kinda sexy girls” doing ok, with everyone else failing for some reason. I really don’t understand that huge difference between 3 and 4.

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The question was “Do you drink or do other drugs specifically to assist with cam performance or coping with camming?”

I thought maybe this is due to correlation with camming time – girls who cam for a long time eventually turn to drugs or alcohol to cope/help. I was right!
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I merged ‘no’ (very few responses) into ‘rarely.’
And, as is unsurprising, the more girls talk to their members off cam, the higher their income.

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This is the question that started it all! I wanted to know if girls who vocalize their disapproval of freeloaders tend to make more or less money. Girls who say ‘no’ or ‘rarely’ make more money than girls who say ‘frequently’ or ‘occasionally’ – though frequently makes more money than occasionally. I don’t know what that’s about.

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Here, ‘1’ was low on the “how much do you do games” scale, and ‘7’ was high.

This is really interesting. Girls who say they are 7 on the scale of games do way better than everyone else.

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Interestingly, Chaturbate cammers do worse than ‘other.’ Unsurprisingly, MFC girls rake in the big bucks.

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Girls who use 1 site make $28 more per hour than girls who use 2.

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The question was, what percentage of your income comes from your top 3 tippers?
(each answer was a range; ’90’ on the graph was ’90-100%’ range in the answer selection)

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The question was about whether girls vocalize their complaints about slow days. The results weren’t strong and it appears as though this doesn’t have any significant effect on income.

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Girls who pretend they are single make $18/hr more than girls who admit they aren’t.
However girls who don’t have a SO at all make even less. Most probably, men are less likely to tip girls who they know are dating someone. However a few things:

Girls who have jealous SOs might be more open about them, and jealous SOs might be less supportive of camming in other areas.
Girls with supportive SOs might put less pressure on them to disclose their relationship.
Girls who don’t have any SOs might have much less help in camming overall.

Although – are less attractive girls less likely to date? Let’s check.
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Nope! No correlation to attractiveness (biggest difference is 0.12).
I suspect this indicates that SOs provide a great deal of behind-the-scenes assistance and motivation.

It’s also possible that girls without SOs also tend to have fewer household expenses, and thus need to make less money to support themselves, and so take camming less seriously.

I don’t think I had enough data to make good predictions about age and relationship status, but it’s possible older women still camming are more likely to be single, and older women make less money.

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“For pay” category had low response number, so don’t take it too seriously.
That being said, 22.4% of girls reported having sexual contact with their members, 15% of it voluntary. Girls who have had voluntary sexual contact with their members make more money. I think this is just that girls who cam longer both tend to make more and tend to eventually become more likely to sex a member. I checked – girls who haven’t sex’d a member have been camming on average 2.55 years, and those who ‘have’ voluntarily sex’d a member have cammed on average 3.62

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Had low-ish (25) numbers for ‘yes, very much’ so take it with a grain of salt.

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Here, 1 was ‘very alternative, tattoos, piercings, etc.’ and 7 was ‘very traditional; no piercings, long hair, etc.’

Generally speaking, the more traditional a camgirl looks, the higher her income.

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0-4 were combined due to low answer volume.
Looks like girls who either don’t take their work home with them, or do, make the most.

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I initially did this as correlation between parents and income, but then I figured it’s probably more just about ‘how long have you been camming,’ and I think I was right. The longer a camgirl has been camming, the more likely it is that their parents know.

Since the graph cuts it off – the first ‘yes” is “mostly accepting,” and the second “yes” is “mostly disapproving.”

And, as a last bonus: non-nude models (both strictly and loosely, so probably including ‘teasy’ models) make only $4 less per hour than nude models!

So in summary: Start camming early. Be young. Have cammed a lot. Work either really hard or kinda hard, but nowhere in between. Be traditional. Don’t have weird colored hair. Do drugs and drink. Don’t have anxiety. Cam on MFC (only) and do a ton of games. Be super hot. Talk to your members offline. Have sex with your members. Get a boyfriend but don’t tell anyone about it. Don’t be too graphically sexy. Be kinda skinny but not too skinny.

And whalah, you have the recipe (or a description, at least) of a successful camgirl!

If you’re interested in taking more surveys, all currently open ones are under the ‘surveys’ tab above, and I will tweet about new ones I add. This survey has taught me a lot about what things to avoid in survey making, and hopefully the next one will be a lot more accurate, fine-tuned, and useful!

Thank you everyone for your help!

Experiences on acid

I did acid once a week for ten months; a summary is here

I am writing from my experience on acid. I have met many people who say their experience is very different. Although I use language like ‘we feel like’ or ‘one experiences,’ please know I don’t think my analysis is universal.

Memory

On acid, thoughts work like a stitch in cloth.

If you look at a stitch from the top down, it looks like a straight, mostly unbroken lineacidthought1

The thread itself isn’t actually going in a straight line, but the visible portion looks even, organized, functional.

If you look at the thread itself, it might look like something closer to this:

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On acid, thoughts stop feeling like a top-down view of the stitch and start to feel like the entire goddamn thread. You start out with one thought (the first segment), and then find you’ve forgotten what you were thinking about – you are now headed in a different direction (the loop underneath), and attempts to force yourself back in line is useless. And so you go, helplessly, through a thousand ideas related and unrelated to the first segment of thought, before you find yourself back in the top stitch again. By that point you’ve forgotten what you were thinking about, so the return to the “normal” thought line is a bit of a pleasant surprise. And so you go on to move through the thought – but then the forgetting happens again.

In this way, normal thought streams can occur, but interspersed between many other thought streams. I tripped a few months ago and needed to go to the bathroom. The thought I wanted to think was “I need to ask someone for help to go to the bathroom.” This thought took me (probably) twenty minutes to fully process and actually come out of my mouth. Those twenty minutes weren’t useless, though; when we relate the idea of ‘trouble asking for help’ to our daily life, we usually think of things like being very drunk, or being very sick, and the entirety of our attention is taken up in completing the task. This is not the case on acid – the entire set of the thought “I need to ask someone for help to go to the bathroom” took the same amount of attention it would normally, only it was cut up into fragments and thrown across twenty minutes.

On acid, trying to remember what you were thinking about ranges from difficult to impossible. You cannot fight the course of the thread. Eventually you learn to give up and allow your mind to take you where it wants, because it will come back round eventually. This teaches you that the sensation of “trying to remember” is useless, and you learn to stop pursuing it.

This is my rationalization for why my memory is bad after taking so much acid. I tripped for so much so long that the muscle of memory atrophied. I feel like everything I need to know is still within me, but the command to access it is severely delayed.

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Tripsitting 1

I tripsat a man alone in my apartment on what turned out to be much stronger acid than we thought. He was twice my size, heavily muscled, and, as we found out, had a rather delusional reaction to acid. He hallucinated, had poor spacial awareness, and ran around, screaming and flailing his arms, breaking my furniture, and alerting my neighbors. I spent his peaking eight hours (the acid lasted way longer than normal) trying to sit on him, calm him, and being thrown like a ragdoll whenever he got excited. At one point he took my head between his hands, stared into my eyes, and said “I could snap your neck right now.” I wish I could say I was scared, but by that point I was so exhausted I kind of wanted to die anyway.

He didn’t remember any of it afterwards but felt quite regretful.

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Wordlessness

Usually we process concepts with a near direct one-to-one correspondence to words. There is a concept, and there is a word that maps onto the concept. Normally the mapping is so tight that we sometimes end up feeling like the words are the concepts themselves. This is why rhetoric is so powerful, why words so important, and why a skilled wordsmith can spin us around and confuse ourselves as to what we really believe – they are manipulating words that are strongly bound to ideas, and thus they manipulate ideas. It’s why we care about things like gendered language, or slurs, or insults.

On acid, this correspondence is reduced. Concepts occur wordlessly; they are experienced, like a tactile sensation in the brain. This is why thoughts on acid are so difficult to communicate – no matter how clear they are to ourselves, we lack the structure to communicate them, and the structure to recall them later. The the words for the concepts are reduced to just symbols, and seem petty, or arbitrary, or artistic representations of the real, truer thing beneath. This makes communication feel much more like a game, or a dance – that you are toying with verbal sounds that aren’t bound to any one thing anymore – you can tie them to anything, and they become much more flexible.

When we normally imagine ‘inability to communicate,’ we imagine that we can speak the thoughts in our heads in some fashion, but that others don’t understand because of language barriers, or they have different contexts for our words, or they haven’t heard the long thought train that led up to it. Normally inability to communicate is something rooted in the poor understanding of the other person – but this is not the case on acid. On acid, the inability to root things in language occurs in your own mind, to yourself. This is an alien feeling to someone who is used to orderly and practical thought.

I feel like the processing I do now is much more similar to words-as-symbols rather than words-as-direct-mapping. This has its drawbacks: I believe it ties into my difficulty remembering things, as words are fucking great for memory. It damages my ability to communicate with other people and I have trouble having an active handle on my train of thought – I get distracted more often, and I can’t hold as many multiple concrete details in my head at the same time.

On the positive side, I feel like my thinking is immensely more clear. Where I would be influenced by seemingly persuasive arguments before, now it seems like they’re waging a war with weapons that don’t work on me. My sense of concept is like gears working underground, disconnected from any handles above the surface. All the ways in which those handles were pressed in order to lead my concepts astray now have severely reduced effects. My thinking has grown significantly more independent (crazy?)

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Acid Testing

I was tripping on about 400ug. My friend asked me to do some math, gradually increasing in difficulty. I could do any math that relied on one unit of memory – for example, 3×3 = 9. I didn’t manually calculate 3×3=9, it was already memorized.

I had difficulty doing math that relied on two units of memory – for example, 54+92. I knew 5+9, and I knew 4+2, but by the time I remembered one of them, I forgot the other.

I was incapable of doing any math that required three units of memory. 13×14 was impossible. I knew how I was supposed to do it, but the thought-loops prevented me from creating a singular, unbroken line of thought. By the time I’d looped all the way back to my original train of thought, I’d forgotten the concrete detail I needed to remember.

Then my friend asked me to imagine a diamond, equal in length on all sides. He said – the top corner is blue, the left is green, the bottom is yellow, the right is purple. If you rotate the diamond one quarter counterclockwise, what color is on the top?

I figured out the answer almost instantly, even before any of the sober people listening. My visual imagination was so strong that a description of an image was almost as good as me looking at the image.

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Tripsitting 2

I’ve tripsat around 50ish people, and have noticed a trend where some men, generally quite polite, unassuming, and gentle while sober, will make uncharacteristic sexual advances to me while tripping – mostly while in a sort of distant, dazed state. The advances mostly come in the form of silently caressing, holding, or groping me – pretty casually, as though we’re already sexually intimate. This puts me in an awkward position, because as their tripsitter, I feel responsible for facilitating a good experience, and rejecting someone on acid can start a bad trip. I usually respond by pretending I have something to do somewhere else, or gently pulling away, if I can.

(I know there’s a strong cultural taboo against unwanted sexual contact, but in this context I want to emphasize that I feel no judgement and I don’t mind. The contact wasn’t aggressive and I felt in control and free to leave. Plus they were on drugs.)

It’s rather amusing to me that this is a trend. I haven’t asked any of them about it yet. I don’t know what it’s all about. If any of you have experienced this I would like to know more.

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Belief

I generally don’t experience construction of belief during a trip. Tripping is almost entirely deconstructive for me; it’s a continual process of locating ideas I have about the way things work and then losing belief in them.

Some other people have this same experience, but most don’t. Experiencing constructive belief “that cat can hear my thoughts” or “I am communicating with an omnipotent being” is fairly common. I don’t understand how this happens, but it’s really hard for people who experience it to explain it. If anybody has an enlightening perspective on this phenomenon then I’d like to know about it.

Anyway – normally when we ‘believe’ things, we have some sort of sensation that the thing we believe matches up pretty accurately with some sort of external reality. This is what we feel when we say things are ‘true,’ when we talk about ‘facts,’ or ‘insanity’ This sensation can permeate so strongly and universally that we stop really registering that we feel it, sort of like a fish that doesn’t know what water is. This is why it can be so difficult to describe to someone who has never experienced anything else.

While tripping, this sensation is reduced or lost. Beliefs are still experienced, but without the feeling of matching up with ‘external reality.’ Once unbound by concerns about ‘truth’, beliefs start to feel like stories, and it becomes much easier for the mind to view beliefs purely for the benefits or comfort the stories provide. This can really highlight ways in which we lie to ourselves, because we lose the escape of ‘but it’s true’ to justify our self-deception. All we have left is “what are my incentives for believing this,” and the answers can be very brutal. “You really believe this because you are desperate for love” or “because you like feeling superior” or “because you are afraid of being alone.”

All that’s left is “this is the way I have made it.”

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An okcupid date

I don’t remember who proposed it, but I met him for the first time at my doorstep. Within ten minutes we both dropped acid and went to church. I sang all the songs joyfully, and at the post-sermon meet-and-greet I told everyone that I was god.

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600ug

That was the reported dose, but in hindsight I think the tabs were stronger.

I spread out towels on my bed out of fear I might pee myself. I closed the door, turned off the music, ate the tabs, and laid down, alone and in silence.

The comeup came hard 20 minutes in. By 90 minutes time slowed so much that I could hear each individual rotation of the blades from the fan in the corner. I was writhing with overwhelming ecstasy, in my body and my mind. I became aware that my genitals were contracting, that I was having an orgasm. It didn’t stop for several minutes.

By 120 minutes I could no longer see the room in front of me when I opened my eyes. I was no longer Aella; I had no experience of my identity, my beliefs, my expectations – I was an infinite series of conscious experiences, cruel and kind, suffering and prosperous. I was dreaming with my eyes open wide, with the knowledge that these weren’t new dreams, they were old ones, ones I’d had a thousand times before, and my presence here was a remembering, and in remembering was what existence was.

After a few hours I regained function enough to manage to hit play on a laptop I’d set up next to me. Time was so distorted that, while I recognized the music, I felt nothing from it; by the time one note had played, I’d forgotten the last one. It no longer functioned like music to me. This frightened me; I thought maybe I’d lost the ability to enjoy music, and the concern was enough to prompt me to skype call a friend and blabber nonsense to him until I finally regained my sense of self.

Fortunately I managed to get through the whole experience without peeing myself even once.